Andy frum
Wed Jul 27 07:59:26 PDT 2005
Thank you all for replying.

At least I have a better image about my "problem"... it really becomes a big 
one :(.

I looked also over other replication systems, but the problems still remains 
open.

Best regards,
Andy.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jan Wieck" <JanWieck at Yahoo.com>
To: "Christopher Kings-Lynne" <chriskl at familyhealth.com.au>
Cc: "Andy" <frum at ar-sd.net>; <slony1-general at gborg.postgresql.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Slony1-general] Slony >> Multi Master Replication???


> On 7/25/2005 11:21 AM, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
>
>> There is no multi master solution for PostgreSQL - at all AFAIK.  What 
>> you want is impossible unless you wait no small amount of time for Slony 
>> II.
>
> I am not even sure that Slony-II will be a solution for Andy. It is 
> planned as a synchronous multimaster system and that will naturally suck 
> big times in a WAN setup with network roundtrip times hundreds of times 
> what you can expect in a gigabit or better LAN.
>
> What would be required here is some asynchronous multimaster with conflict 
> resolution. I am not aware of any existing solution like that.
>
>
> Jan
>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> Andy wrote:
>>> Well, everybody's in vacation (I hope so) or there is no solution for 
>>> me???
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Andy.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy" <frum at ar-sd.net>
>>> To: "Scott Marlowe" <smarlowe at g2switchworks.com>
>>> Cc: <slony1-general at gborg.postgresql.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 9:46 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Slony1-general] Slony >> Multi Master Replication???
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Well, there's always some kludgy answer to such problems.  But, are 
>>>>> you
>>>>> sure you really need true multi-master replication?  Mayhaps you could
>>>>> describe what it is you are trying to do first, then allow the group 
>>>>> to
>>>>> help you come up with an answer.
>>>>
>>>> Ok. Here is my story:
>>>>
>>>> We develop a contract management software, we use a Postgre database, 
>>>> which has around 100 tables. Our compnay wants so open 2 more 
>>>> offices(in September) in Europe where the employees will have to work 
>>>> with this management software. And we are looking for a solution that 
>>>> we can install this software on local servers in this offices.
>>>>
>>>> In this offices will be performed some major tasks like: add a 
>>>> contract, planifications, report writings etc. We already use Slony for 
>>>> a datatransfer to a client, but he can only read the data's and it is 
>>>> ok so. But in this offices will be a lot of writing in the database. 
>>>> That is why I wanted a multi master replications. Most of the tables 
>>>> are "static" tables. I mean that they contain lists... that somehow are 
>>>> "fix"... can be user as "read_only" in these offices. But a task like: 
>>>> add a contract writes data in at least 8 tables, planning in 3, report 
>>>> writing in 6 or 7 didn't count them exactly.
>>>>
>>>> So, my problem is this: how to replicate the database and also keep 
>>>> these tables "writable"??? The solution that I see is to duplicate 
>>>> these tables and replicate them reversily(from slave to master) and to 
>>>> read the data with scripts... but somehow I don't like it very much. 
>>>> The other problem with this solution is that we'll have 2 offices 
>>>> now... what about the future...
>>>>
>>>> I will appriciate any ideeas, solutions etc.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Andy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Marlowe" 
>>>> <smarlowe at g2switchworks.com>
>>>> To: "Andy" <frum at ar-sd.net>
>>>> Cc: <slony1-general at gborg.postgresql.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 7:04 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Slony1-general] Slony >> Multi Master Replication???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 05:05, Andy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I know that with Slony I is not possible to make a multi master
>>>>>> replication.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Probably some of you have more experience with Postgre Replication 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> I really need to make a multi master replication. I heard that slony
>>>>>> II will be able to do this... but I don't know iof there is any
>>>>>> release date or somthing more specific about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or... other replication solution?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, there's always some kludgy answer to such problems.  But, are 
>>>>> you
>>>>> sure you really need true multi-master replication?  Mayhaps you could
>>>>> describe what it is you are trying to do first, then allow the group 
>>>>> to
>>>>> help you come up with an answer.  There may be an inobvious fix no one
>>>>> will think of until they know what objectives you're trying to reach.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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